Mathieu, depuis que tu m’as parlé de liens entre chamanisme et ET, j’ai beaucoup réfléchi sur ce sujet. Il se trouve que j’avais déjà eu ces interrogations à la lecture du livre de JC Pantel, car les méthodes des « visiteurs de l’espace-temps » ressemblent beaucoup à celle des sorciers Toltèques de Castaneda, sous un mode différent. Mais le principe est le même : utiliser la peur pour faire bouger « le point d’assemblage de la réalité » ou en d’autres termes pour ouvrir une brèche dans la perception rationnelle, afin de pouvoir ensuite faire passer des enseignements philosophiques qui seront perçus alors sur un plan plus profond que d’ordinaire.

Mais quoiqu’il en soit, qu’une connaissance ésotérique nous soit transmise par des ET ou non, cette « connaissance » semble bien relever de quelque chose d’objectif. D’ailleurs dans le livre de Jérémy Narby, les indiens de la forêt amazonienne prétendent que tout leur savoir sur les plantes leur ont été enseignés lors de visions par la consommation d’Ayahuasca. Ainsi, si les plantes possèdent une connaissance, il s’agit bien là de l’intelligence de la Nature.

Au fond, que cela passe par des extra-terrestres ou par des plantes, quelle importance ? Comme je te l’écrivais dans un ancien mail, je pense que la connaissance objective de ce que nous sommes vraiment (et de ce qu’est l’Univers) se trouve en nous, mais qu’il faut des clés pour en ouvrir la porte. Ces clés peuvent être des techniques de méditation, la consommation de plantes psychoactives, ou la transmission directe par l’énergie d’un être « réalisé » (que celui-ci soit terrestre ou extra-terrestre), ou encore par un « contact » lors de sorties astrales, etc…

Je ne connais rien sur le sujet des enlèvements, où pourrais-je trouver des témoignages ?

Au fait, je ne connaissais pas le terme de « plantes lucidogènes », d’où vient-il ? L’appellation « lucidogène » est intéressante car elle implique un tout autre sens que celui « d’hallucinogène »…

A bientôt, et bonne lecture !

Sirona

Des Ovni au-dessus du Mexique ?

mercredi 12 mai 2004 - 12:33

Sur cette image extraite d'une video infrarouge prise d'un avion militaire le 25 mars au-dessus de la côte est du Mexique, on voit des objets brillants non identifiés. La bande a été fournie par le ministre de la Défense mexicain à un journaliste. On y voit au total onze objets de ce type. Ni l'aviation mexicaine ni personne d'autre n'a été capable de dire de quoi il s'agissait.
(Libération.fr)

Idaho UFO Researcher: Mexican UFOs "Definitely Alien Craft."

By Scott Logan
 
BOISE -  
An Idaho-based UFO researcher says spectacular videotape of purported flying saucers taken by the Mexican Air Force is the real deal.

 "It appears from all indications these could be mother ships," said Ike Bishop, Idaho state director for the Mutual UFO Network. "They are definitely alien craft."

Idaho 2 News spoke on the phone with Bishop, who was at the world famous Little Ale'inn in Rachel, NV near Area 51, the supersecret military base 100 miles north of Las Vegas where some believe aliens and humans are collaborating scientifically.

A videotape aired Monday on Mexican national television showing a series of brilliant objects flying at more than 11,480 feet over southern Campeche state.

The tape was filmed March 5 by air force pilots using a video camera equipped with an infrared lens.The objects appear to accelerate rapidly and change course suddenly.

At least one crew member testified in a videotaped interview that the objects encircled the military jet at a distance of at least two miles.

Bishop says Mexico has a long history of UFO sightings and he applauded the Mexican Air Force for making the videotape public this week.

"The Mexican government is not afraid to talk about UFOs," Bishop told Idaho 2 News. "People don't lose their jobs over the whole thing."

The pilots spotted the objects while conducting a routine drug-surveillance mission. Only three of the objects showed up on the plane's radar. Infrared equipment can only detect heat emanating from objects. It is unable to provide an image of the objects' exact forms.

After deciding it was no threat to national security, Mexican Defense Secretary Gen. Ricardo Vega Garcia gave the videotape to UFO specialist Jaime Maussan, who has spent 10 years studying unidentified flying objects.

Maussan claimed Tuesday the videotape was evidence that flying saucers exist. The video was especially significant since it was provided by the military, he said.

"This is historic news," Maussan said. "Hundreds of videos (of UFOs) exist, but none had the backing of the armed forces of any country. ... The armed forces don't perpetuate frauds."

But Vega denied Wednesday that the military had made any conclusions about where the lights came from or whether they were UFOs.

"This is Maussan's point of view, for that reason he was given (the video) so that he could draw his own conclusions," Vega told a Mexican radio station. "But that is his version."

Bishop agrees with Maussan, and says his own investigation indicates more and more stunning UFO sightings will come in the near future.

"From what people have been telling me, 2004 and 2005 will be the awakening years (for UFO sightings)," Bishop said. "In other words, fasten your seatbelts."

Or as one of the Mexican pilots said, "This is all so very strange."

(The Associated Press contributed to this report.)

'UFO' lights over Mexico may be gas
By Associated Press



MEXICO CITY -- A series of brightly lit, rapidly moving objects filmed in the skies over Mexico could have been caused by a scientific phenomenon involving gases in the atmosphere, a scientist said Thursday.

Visible only with infrared equipment, the hauntingly fast-moving lights were captured by Mexican air force cameras March 5 but made public only this week, sparking rampant speculation they were flying saucers.

Julio Herrera, a nuclear science researcher at the National Autonomous University, said the bright blurs could have been caused by electrical flashes emitted spontaneously by the atmosphere.

"They are (a) very strange phenomenon and there is little information about them," Herrera said of the atmospheric flashes in a phone interview. "That's what's so interesting."

He said more data than is available on the videotape would be necessary to determine whether that hypothesis was correct, including precise information on atmospheric conditions at the time the lights appeared.

The Campeche coast on the Gulf of Mexico, where the objects were filmed, is Mexico's main oil- and gas-producing region. Oil platforms there release or burn off some of the gas they produce.

The objects were recorded as an air force plane flew at more than 11,000 feet over southern Campeche state, using a video camera equipped with an infrared lens.

Mexican air force captures invisible 'UFOs' on film
By Tim Gaynor in Tijuana
13 May 2004


The Mexican air force has released video footage of unidentified flying objects picked up by an infrared camera as they whizzed around a surveillance plane, in scenes eerily reminiscent of a Hollywood alien invasion movie.

The fuzzy images that have entranced Mexican television viewers since Monday show up to 11 bright objects, some sharp points of light and others like large headlights, moving rapidly in loose formation across what appears to be a late-evening sky.

Filmed by air force pilots on a routine patrol for drug smugglers over the eastern coastal state of Campeche in early March, the objects were first picked up on the radar monitor, then captured using an infrared camera slung under the aircraft's fuselage.

Mexico's Defence Ministry released the images to a local journalist, Jaime Maussan, a long-time believer in flying saucers. He told a news conference on Tuesday that the objects were real and that they appeared to be "intelligent", because at one point they changed direction and surrounded the plane chasing them.

"They were invisible to the eye but they were definitely there, there is no doubt about it. They had mass, they had energy and they were moving about," he said, after showing a 15-minute video.

Widely broadcast on Mexican television news bulletins earlier this week, the clip included excited commentary by the clearly shaken pilots. "We are not alone!" shrieked one over the howl of the aircraft's turbines. "This is so weird."

Interviewed by Mr Maussan in another section of the video, the pilots said they grew nervous when the objects, still invisible, turned back during a chase and surrounded the plane, which was cruising at an altitude of 11,500ft. Major Magdaleno Castanon said: "There was a moment when ... the screens showed they were behind us, to the left and in front of us. It was at that point that I felt a bit tense."

The latest sighting recalled a scene from the Hollywood blockbuster Signs, directed by M Night Shyamalan and starring Mel Gibson. In the film, a formation of lights hovers over the capital Mexico City, in a prelude to a doomsday invasion by green aliens.

While Mexico has a long history of fanciful UFO sightings - most of which are dismissed by scientists as space debris, missiles, weather balloons, natural weather phenomena or hoaxes - the latest recordings have gained more serious attention.

After watching the videos carefully on national television news, Gustavo Paez, a retired airline pilot, said they appeared to be "totally real, despite the fact that some people dismiss sightings such as these as fantasies of the disturbed".

"We have to give this credibility as it was spotted by the air force," Mr Paez, who flew for the Mexican airline Taesa during a 22-year career, told The Independent. "They recorded the velocity and the altitude on radar, and the luminosity of the objects. I think it was real and it should be taken seriously."

UFO is spotted over Kingsgate Retail Park during morning rush-hour
 
By Judith Tonner
 
 
THE appearance of a UFO in the sky above Kingsgate Retail Park last week caused spooked drivers to bump their cars.

Several people reported seeing a huge silver object in the area as they drove past at around 8.45am last Wednesday.

Drivers were so distracted by the bizarre sighting that at least two minor bumps were reported, as the attention of motorists wandered from the more mundane forms of transport before them on the road.

A local woman, who did not wish to be named, contacted the News to describe the experience of a friend who was driving towards the retail park at that time.

She said: "My friend saw something hovering, which was silver in appearance and looked like the dishes you see on the side of television transmitters.

"It was huge, and it was pulsating - he wasn't the only one who saw it, as you couldn't have missed it.

"He saw it and just thought: 'Good God', and was really quite shaken by the whole thing.

"Then the object just suddenly disappeared - it was so strange.

"My friend thinks the accidents at Kingsgate were a result of other people seeing this thing as well."

The sighting has also intrigued East Kilbride UFO Club, whose members were warned in advance that they might be about to spot something strange in the sky.

Colleagues in Cumbernauld had seen a similar object around half an hour previously, and alerted their South Lanarkshire counterparts that it appeared to be heading in their direction.

Lee Close, of the Anglo-Scottish UFO Research Agency, has been investigating last week's events in tandem with the local UFO club.

He said: "This is the first time I've come across a UFO causing a car crash, although I'm aware of it having happened in America before.

"People in Scotland tend to think: 'oh, there's something in the sky' and just carry on, so the fact that it's caused two fender benders is quite unusual.

"The fact that it's in daylight interests us immensely too - previously 95 per cent of sightings were at night, although they're now almost equal between day and night-time."

Anyone who saw last week's UFO or witnessed either of the two reported vehicle bumps is asked to contact Lee on 07957 912500, or Noel Wallace of East Kilbride UFO Club on 07941 157187, and all information will be treated in the strictest confidence.